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naked in john boehner's office, three were arrested. all the girls. john stanton said there are actually people who woke up today and said today, i'm going to get buck naked in front of john boehner's staff and so it is. getting naked is a tactic. a protest tactic and judging by the wide eyed tweets as it happened, today, nudity worked. see you again tomorrow night. now, it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> when kelly corey won the oscar for her first screen play 20 years ago, she had no idea that the heroes of her film, thelma and louise were going to become political role models. >> white house is continue to warn of dire consequences for the middle class. >> on friday, he'll return to the stumps. >> he's back on the campaign trail. >> the campaign style tour. >> trying to drum up public support for his budget priorities. >> seems like just another fight in washington. >> there are really two issues there. >> a revenue side, yes. >> where is that revenue going to come from? >> increasing tax rates is going to harm dmik growth. >> warren buffett was out this mornin
and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans who have publicly said they are open to poe tengts tax increases, revenue increases, but even more so we're seeing this entrenchment over the military spending cuts, the unwilling nness to see that and we're seeing on the democratic side the idea that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if we went over the fiscal cliff and kicked the can down the road to the next congress which will be more favorable from the liberal perspective to negotiating on these big picture issues. frankly, i think it would be harder to have a compromise on son-in-law of the entitlement reform that republicans want to see, at least some movement before they will agree before this talk of raising taxes will be anything more than the lip service that you mentioned. >> okay. so ken is suggesting there it's in republicans' interests to do a deal now. jared, the white house
. will it last? we have top officials from both sides "outfront" tonight. and speaker of the house john boehner put obama care on the table. he says if we're serious about getting our financial house in order, obama care has to go. is he crazy? or crazy like a fox? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. and "outfront" tonight, cease-fire. 142 people were killed in gaz why and five in israel, egypt helped negotiate a temporary truce which took effect at 9:00 at night in tel aviv. it was met with gunfire in the streets of gaza city. it is fragile. israeli defense forces say there are five rockets launched from gaza since the cease-fire went into effect. and prime minister benjamin netanyahu's statement was cautious. he said he was willing to give the egyptian cease-fire a chance before there is a need to use greater force. not exactly a ringing endorsement. here's the key thing, while the united states got involved with a visit from hillary clinton this deal was not brokered by the usa. >> this is a critical moment for the region. egypt's new government is assuming the res
to meet with leaders of the business world this afternoon politico is reporting that john boehner and his leadership team are making plans to meet with some of these very same executives. now the irony here is that obama and boehner still have no plans to meet themselves face-to-face. the two did meet before congress' thanksgiving recess along with the other two three members of the house and the senate. they had plans to meet again this week but still nothing is scheduled. it is not a great sign and shows that the two groups are practically incapable of working together. the last time obama and boehner tried putting together a big deal over the budget, that completely collapsed and this time around, the american people are getting less and less optimistic that congress will be able to reach a deal before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in just 33 days. it is going to look bad for congress if they cannot get this done and some republicans are saying it's time to give in. politico's also reporting oklahoma representati
. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that was vigorously debated and comprehensively defeated just three weeks ago. i guess the only question now is, wh
've been defeated on this. what has to change is their attitude on this. >> oh, is john boehner going to be pissed when he finds out mitt romney lost the election. if they let him out of that time machine, he might be something. the thing i find humorous about this, as well as about the whole issue of taxes and whether or not we should repeal the bush tax cuts, is that republicans do seem to have decided that the election that just happened didn't really happen. and that they are going to propose pretty much all of mitt romney's ideas as their negotiating starting point. well, we just -- >> we needed paul ryan actually to help get the job done. >> even having paul ryan talk about it. it's amazing. they decided while mitt romney lost the election, his ideas, they think won. i don't know how they get there. >> i feel like what they're trying to do is say, we lost, never mind but we're going to keep doing what we do. if we keep saying it enough, maybe -- >> i read that -- john boehner's op-ed pretty carefully. here's one thing he said. he said there are three ways to take down obama care
piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i think it will be a democratic buildup than a republican buildup. but there's no doubt that if eric cantor is willing to at least vote on a deal that has new revenue, that that is a huge paradigm shift. and i think that gives us all hope, although there's still a long way to go, that there can be a deal that has the president has said for a long time, a balanced approach. >> but ruth, what are the democrats willing to give, because there are some democrats, some of the more liberal democrats who are saying let's go over the cliff. that gives us more leverage. >> there's extremes in both parties that say let's go over the cliff. grover norquist was saying it the other day. i just want to -- before we get to the democrats, i want to be debbie downer for a minute on the republican side. i totally agree with mark. we're hearing
obama was re-elected as president, i have to say, you are probably not thankful that john boehner was re-elected as speaker of the house. and vice versa, if you're psyched about john boehner, you're probably not psyched about president obama. but there is one thing about the re-election of both of these men that i think is maybe worth being thankful for. i am thankful that john boehner forever and president obama may be only recently, these two men have been willing to show emotion in public. to be big, tough, american leaders of the highest order, right? both of them in positions where they really answer to no one but the voters. and they are willing to be seen shedding a tear, without shame. i am thankful for that in our national american leadership. i am thankful that the brilliant bbc series, "house of cards," about the most evil politician ever, a mini series that i've watched a million times and i've been addicted to for years, i am happy, i am thankful, i am thankful that "house of cards" is being remade by kevin spacey and it comes out in february. i'm thankful for nbc white hous
asking a question about something. you find out what people -- you and about john boehner, you don't ask about the fiscal cliff or the tax plan. they ask if john boehner is gay. is joe biden, stupid, retards, gay, jewish, smart? these are the smart. these are the things that pop up. >> gay is like always. >> gay is up there. mormon is up there a lot. bill belichick, the patriots coach, is bill bielichick gay, mormon, a cheater. >> sideline cheater. >> it's interesting that this profile, i think people don't maybe appreciate that everything you're searching -- there are people who are putting this all together and saying that's who this guy is. >> that reminds me of a funny story from thanks lelast year. a guy on twitter told his dad twitter was a search engine. so his dad started entering questions into twitter and they went up as posts. some examples, how do you pronounce juan? national geographic dinosaur truth. can i bring a tupperware of chili on an airplane. i don't know if this was real or fake but it was really, really funny. people don't realize, the internet is not a gated commu
with president obama? house speaker john boehner said no way. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses and hurt our economy. >> joining me now from washington, d.c., the democratic senator from washington, patty murray, a member of the senate budget committee. it is great to have you on the program. >> well, thank you, alex. nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut proposal and the norquist pledge will no longer keep republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. which would seem to be good news for republ
, at&t. you see the signs here, just to name a few. on the republican side, house speaker john boehner says the gop has done its part and now it is time for the democrats to show their cards on spending cuts. >> we all know that we have had this spending crisis coming at us like a freight train. and it has to be dealt with. and in order to try to come to an agreement, republicans are willing to put revenue on the table, but it is time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> president obama and speaker boehner's last face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff was 12 days ago. though apparently they did talk over the phone this weekend. if the president and congress do not cut a deal, let me repeat myself here, massive tax hikes and spending cuts automatically kick in the first of next year. joining me now from washington is representative marcia blackbird, a house republican, represents the seventh district of tennessee which covers some of the suburb s between nashvile and memphis. nice to see you. thanks for coming on today. >>
or, b, limit deductions. but you know what the speaker of the house said the other day, john boehner, he said he's willing to do the latter. now you just saw what chambliss said. so is the era of grover and his you ubiquitous pledge over? >> no. i think grover deserves a great deal of credit for keeping that pledge to the american people and holding republicans' feet to the fire. gregg: is it over now? >> no. we have a different set of circumstances. perhaps what the democrats should have had is their own grover norquist on spending, and we wouldn't be in the mess we find ourselves in. but here's the reality, gregg.me for the status quo. nothing's changed since two months ago. we have basically the same makeup in government. obama controls the white house, we control the house, democrats controls the senate. but guess what? the american people don't expect a status quo in governance. gregg: there's a recent rasmussen poll and, juan, i want you to take a look as well, 57% agree that raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year is a good idea. can you put that up on the scre
relief with just two pills. >>> 12 minutes past the hour. house speaker john boehner says nothing is off the table to avoid that fiscal cliff, including obamacare. automatic cuts will start january 2nd if an agreement isn't reached. he said in an op-ed, we can't afford it. and we can't afford it to leave it intact. that's why i've been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nation's massive debt challenge. >>> a special election following jesse jackson jr.'s resignation from congress. jackson says he needs to spend time, quote, restoring my health. jackson mysteriously disappeared from capitol hill in may and his office later revealed he was dealing with depression and had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. health concerns aren't the only thing jackson is facing, though. ted rowlands is in chicago. good morning, ted. >> reporter: good morning, carol. yeah. well, the health concerns are significant. he had two stints at the mayo clinic. talking to family members, that was the main reason why he just couldn't move forward. and he gave his l
john boehner needs to go. i think it needs to be a kevin mccarthy as well as in the senate. you know, we need new leadership. marco rubio would be a great senate minority leader, and it's bold, but we need the change in washington d.c. heather: but in the meantime, we have what we have right now, we are just a matter of weeks away, so what do you think they need to do, and do you think that president obama will take the lead with dwoarks this time around? -- with negotiations this time around? >> absolutely. and he has started to take the lead. he's met with congressional leaders, the ones that we have, and i don't think that those are going to change, and we're going to see another meeting the in just a few days. but what i think really needs to happen is that republicans are finally going to have to stop letting grover norquist and his pledge hold our economy hostage. and the great thing that we have seen in the last few days is that some republicans are finally saying, guess what? i'm actually going to put the country first instead of some pledge i took 20 years ago, for example,
, and norah. the president and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone over the weekend. top aides in the house and senate tell us that negotiations at this point are just taking place between the president's staff and speaker boehner's staff. that's because any deal that involves raising tax revenue is going to face its biggest challenge in the republican-led house. top republicans returning from thanksgiving recess urged the president to make the first offer in fiscal cliff negotiations. and they expressed a new openness to raising tax revenue, if democrats agree to make cuts to strengthen medicare and medicaid. >> elections come and go. and when they go the spirit to find common ground becomes greater. >> reporter: georgia republican saxby chambliss and mark warner lead the gang of eight. four senate democrats and four senate republicans, who originally met in 2007 to craft a plan to cut the debt. >> you still don't have a final product after 2 1/2 years. why do shud we have any confidence that the president and the leaders should get anything done i
and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal than the senate gop conference. so that's the sort of bad news. while we hear a lot of this going forward and it seems to be pos tish, when you get down to the nitty-gritty and aides and those chose to president obama, there's not been a lot of movement on the taxive of what to do. republicans don't want to touch that. democrats want that. they feel they have a mandate from the election. that is the issue we said is going to be the linchpin for the last three months. it continues to be there. there is no movement on that. and until there's movement on how to come up with that type of revenue, 250 and above, we're going to keep having the same conversation about ongoing negotiations, talking points from both sides. >> luke russert getting down to the nitty-gritty. stephanie, let's get down to the markets. they put our chances of going over the cliff at about 5%. so why is the market freaking out? >> you know the market always wants to be a bull but it doesn't matter what side of the aisle to sit on you. have to agree we're n
john boehner and the senate majority leader harry reid over the weekend. and the president is confident they can work out some sort of agreement. mike emanuel on fox top story live in the d.c. newsroom tonight. mike, it looks like some republicans are changing their tunes. >> shep, republicans say they favor both major spending cuts and additional revenue from tax reform with lower tax rates. the pledge you mentioned is identified with americans for tax reforms grover norquist who has gotten many republicans to promise they won't vote to raise taxes. south carolina senator lindsey graham is pushing back saying capping deductions would help generate revenue. the top republic on the senate budget committee explained graham's position. >> he is conditioning any tax increase on fixing these programs, social security and medicare, particularly in making sure that they are sound for the future. so that's lindsey's position. and he has talked about accepting revenue to accomplish that goal. >> republicans continue saying they don't want to increase tax rates arguing that will hurt job growth.
reid and speaker john boehner by phone on saturday when you see him this week he will be getting by with a little help from his friends ordinary unelected americans. joining us professor of economics at the university of michigan justin wool fers. great to see you. before i ask for your economic analysis i want to pose one question to my colleagues in new york, that is really about the optics of the president going straight forward and straight to the kisser as it were on the bush tax cuts, not really even talking about the fiscal cliff or the debt limit which looms in february or march. >> as we know there is no real fiscal cliff. it's more of a curve or a mole hill. it's serious and real but not going over the cliff. if there is something of a cliff-like situation, it's playing to the president's advantage. december 31st what he doesn't want, the bush tax cuts for the rich, will be gone. they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not
out between president obama and john boehner. >> i guess so. because dick durbin himself has been confusing in what he's been saying publicly. on sunday he said sure medicare and medicaid can be part of the discussion. today he's giving a speech where it should not be part of the conversation. there this morning he's saying once we get into a room, we can start talking about it. and there are ways that i think liberals would agree to do medicare and medicaid. you know, if you're tinkering on the supplier side like, you know, say medical device companies or something, or reimporting drugs from canada, or allowing medicare to negotiate, or reduce price, or add a public option to health care reform. you know, that would save money. so there are things that democrats would do when it comes to entitlements that would save money. and maybe that's what dick durbin is talking about, but those are the exact opposite of the things that republicans would want to do when it comes to entitlements. so harry reid's strategy might be the easiest one. just say, look, this is not part of the conver
campaign funds to buy jewelry for a mysteries and remodel his house. in a letter to speaker john boehner he said i am aware of the on going federal investigation into my activities. i am doing my best to cooperate with the investigators and accept responsibility for my mistakes. they are mine and mine alone. none of us isee tune from our share of short come eupblgs or human frai hume trail tees. gregg: explain what happens to his seat. >> reporter: we expect to have a date for a special election in four days. pat quinn will make sure th the election is fair and as economical as possible for the taxpayers who have to foot the bill. that being to you. gregg: thanks very much. ainsley: back to the breaking developments an on benghazi. ambassador susan rice breaking her ten-week silence and defending her actions. when she said the attacks came from and anti-muslim film. >> i relied solely and scare leon the information provided to me by the intelligence community. i made clear that the information was preliminary, and that our investigations would give us th the definitive answers. ainsley: joi
. house speaker john boehner sending an ultimatum to the president saying his healthcare plan has to be on the table as congress works to avoid a fiscal cliff. >> a new report of the death of usama bin laden reveals shadowy details of the at-sea burial of the world's most wanted terrorist. a cloud hanging over excited shoppers on black friday as workers at the nation's largest retailer get ready for a possible walkout on the busiest shopping day of the year. heather: we can see groups of walmart employees demanding higher pay and better benefits and urging employees to walk out if the demand are not met. with the national labor relations board holding off on a ruling until after thanksgiving, it looks like thousands of shoppers could see serious disruptions. james rosen live for us in our d.c. bureau. >> reporter: heather and rick, happy thanksgiving to you it's an unusual situation when walmart seeks protection from the national labor relations board. that agency was only handed this case last friday. federal investigators have been deposing witnesses and reviewing documents in a
speaker john boehner and has said he's willing to put almost anything on the table except social security. he wants to deal with that separately next year, but republicans want all entitlements included in talks. they want the president to make the first move with an initial proposal. and the white house says it has not received a realistic proposal from republicans that would raise the kind of revenue president obama is seeking. >> susan mcginnis in washington this morning. thank you so much. >>> amid sky high approval ratings in the wake of superstorm sandy, new jersey governor chris christie said he will be seeking re-election next year. he said the preliminary damage from sandy is nearly $30 million. christie says he's in it for the long haul to help jersey recover. >>> coming up on the morning news, click and shop. cyber monday rings up record sales on what's expected to be the busiest online shopping day of the year. this is the morning news. [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of spl
's representative in the negotiation, and harry reid is telling a far different stories. john boehner and his caucus, the target, again, of senator reid's blame game. the senate majority leader insistent that republicans are the only onee in the way of the deal. reid asked point blank what the first thing would be, and he offered this curious answer. >> well, remember, we've already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. we've already done that. we need to get some credit for that and the negotiations that take place. lou: meanwhile, according to the white house, everything is not on the table, the table that a president is not scheduled to be seated at. carney confirmed that president obama will not find any extension of the bush tax cuts for the top 2% of the earners in the nation, and a look at the president's schedule for the remainder of this week shows nothing in the way of negotiations on it. the president reverting back to campaign mode as the white house decided to lobby for public support of his fiscal cliff policy positions rather than negotiate a compromise. president obama beli
and top republicans including house speaker john boehner are accelerating. but the white house must contend with members of his own party who are pushing back against proposals that significantly reshape entitlement programs like medicare and social security. white house press secretary jay carney said yesterday the president is open to compromise and should republicans make a realistic proposal on taxes, they will meet them halfway. >> math tells us that you can't get the kind of balanced approach that you need without having rates be part of the equation. we haven't seen a proposal that achieves that, a realistic proposal, that achieves that. the reality is, closing loopholes and ending deductions as an alternative to raising rates on the top earners, top 2%, those making over $250,000, sounds good, but you have to look at the actual contents of those proposals. >>> and a new poll shows the majority of americans do want compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. 67% say a deal should be a combination of spending cuts and tax increases. and if no deal is reached by the end of t
the debt limit unless forced to by john boehner. >> and by the way, john boehner is talking about having to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cann
submitted today to house speaker john boehner's office. but he also wrote, quoting here: i am aware of the ongoing federal investigation into my activities and i am doing my best to address the situation sonsably, cooperate with the investigators and accept responsibility for my mistakes for they are my mistakes and mine alone. mike tobin is live for us in chicago with more. mike, did this come as a shock to anyone? >> no. for the reasons you just mentioned, no one was surprised that the congressman stepped down. in fact it was a question of when it would happen. however, fellow politicians and friends here in chicago were quick to jump to the congressman's defense and say his resignation is not an admission of guilt. >> he hasn't been indicted. he hasn't been charged. he hasn't been convicted of any law -- breach of the law, none at all. all right. some would argue that if he really wanted to cut a deal, you stay in congress and negotiate from a position of power. some would argue that. >> the most prominent allegations reported against jackson are that he skimmed campaign cash to
and personality of president, john boehner and senator reed and senator mcconnell. what's on the table here is of course this week you see more republicans saying we're not going to hold to this grover norquist idea, norquist being the man everybody who is a republican has to sign a no tax increase -- >> chris: they've already sign it had. >> this week you had saxby chambliss from georgia joining people like john mccain, tom coburn and others and 12 members of the house who say republicans have to be willing to -- we did not win the election. the president's back in office, you have to make a deal. the president needs to deal too. this sometimes doesn't get attention but you heard nancy pelosi, harry reid, they expect a deal along with charlie wrangle before the deadline because the unions are advertising say don't you dare cut our programs badly. you see it advertising from the republican side. both sides are under pressure for a deal now and they're going to make it. >> chris: that's an optimistic view. bill, let me ask you, you can respond to sister chaney about this. one idea that was f
do you do that? well, john boehner went to the white house ten days ago and said republicans in the house are willing to put revenues on the table. that was a big move, right? >> a big move? huh? the gop has always been open to raising revenue. governor romney even promised to do that. it seems awfully similar to what speaker boehner offered a year ago during debt talks. >> we have an agreement on a revenue number. there was an agreement on some additional revenues. >> i stuck my neck out a mile and i put revenues on the table. >> revenues on the table? the gop is essentially offering the same thing they did a year ago. plus, they want to keep tack rates for the wealthy the same. they want to cut entitlements, postpone pentagon cuts, and now they are putting health care on the table. mr. cantor says the gop has presented a big move. nah. losing an election is big. i'm still waiting for the move part from them. joining me now is jared bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden and michelle cottle, washington correspondent for newsweek
. republicans know they are pretty much boxed in on this. especially with the public. house speaker john boehner is running out of options. he told president obama over the holidays he could hold the december ceiling hostage in order to get a deal the republicans like. boehner said to the president "there's a price for everything." now that is exactly the attitude that has gotten the republicans into trouble with the american people. our way or the highway. senator dick durbin was quick to shoot down the speaker's threat. >> we're not going to find ourselves with some big party celebrating in february and turn around in march and have another doomsday scenario. we have to get this done as a package. >> interpretation, we might like the deal? republicans need to start coming around to reality. the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, going to be gone. entitlement reform can wait. it's not that the democrats don't want to talk about it, but it isn't going to happen now. maybe next year. right now, the goal is tax cuts for the middle class. if there was any kind of mistake in part of the democrats not be
. >> brian: house democrats going along with maybe john boehner caucus to pass it. that is how divided it could be. it could cost them the house. when it's said and done and we're sitting here on december 31, emergency session of five five -- i'll be here in case of injury -- there will be sitting there saying this is deal we got to cut. we got to get the democrats to come along with republicans. >> dana: aside from politics i don't think enough people are talking about what is the right policy and the right answer and solution to get the economy going again? see that social security and medicare is saved for the next generation. >> eric: one quick point, can we as five or the con seventives, bob you should be interested in this, too. forget social security. we pay to the social security system. it's self-fulfilling. >> bob: they pay in medicare, too. >> eric: but we way with payroll and fica to social security. government raids social security. only reason that social security is on table they took $2 trillion we paid into it. >> bob: dana's question do you want transparency and grove
are yearning for cooperation and bipartisanship. but most republicans, they don't get the message. speaker john boehner is threatening to take us to the brink again by refusing to raise the debt ceiling unless he gets what he wants in the tax fight. he told the president, quote, it's my leverage. he said, quote, there's a price for everything. over in the senate, gop leader mitch mcconnell is striking the same tone. >> look, we already know the president's a very good campaigner. we congratulate him on his re-election. what we don't know is whether he has the leadership qualities necessary to lead his party to a bipartisan agreement. >> mr. one-term-president mcconnell is resorting to name-calling. the gop lost because of this attitude. and now they're just looking like a lost cause. joining me now is steve car kna krystal ball. why doesn't the gop look to chris christie assist a role model? he's the most popular person in their party right now? >> hopefully some in the gop do. you have to remember that a lot of people, a lot of folks in the republican party were very upset with chris christie
in john boehner putting together a good package. he is very conciliatory in his language. >> i do am opposed to raising tax rates but i do believe we can close loopholes. >> they have to go up real tax rates or effective tax rates. there are ways to do that. secondly we have to close significant loopholes. martha: all right. what are we hearing here? are he starting to hear a little bit of common ground? a high level meeting as you just heard on the fiscal cliff is expected this week at the white house with the president getting involved. nobody knows exactly when that will take place and who all of the players will be. we'll talk to senator sessions. bill: listen carefully on the language as we work through this. nearly all americans will see their taxes go higher if congress does not reach a deal by the 1st of january. 158 million americans would be affected. every household in the country would pay 3500 more in taxes in 2013. 88% of households would see their taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retail
speaker john boehner said he would prefer closing loopholes and tax deductions rather than raising rates. martha: thank you very much. bill: the budget negotiations with congressional leaders started a few weeks ago with president obama barack obama calling for $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue over the next decade. treasury secretary timothy geithner argues that you cannot raise enough revenue to reduce the deficit by only limited tax breaks as some republicans argue, some senior republican aides they say believe a likely compromise would generate about a trillion dollars in new tax revenue possibly by limiting the deductions. martha: part of this whole equation. any future spending cuts should come gradually warned the global economic watchdog so as not to derail the already weak recovery. the group predicts the economy will grow a bit next year but at a slower rate than originally thought. we are really in a very slow growth pattern. they are projecting 2% next year compared with 2.6% which was the forecast from a few months ago. that kind of gross does not get you up off the ma
, john boehner, and senator reid, and mcconnell. what is on the table, i think this week you see more republicans saying, you know, we will not hold to the grover norquist idea, the man who says that everybody who is a republican has to sign a "no tax increase" pledge. >> chris: in fact they've already signed it. >> in some cases but this week you had people like saxby chambliss, joining people like your guest this morning, john mccain, tom coburn and others and 12 members of the house, saying, republicans have to be willing to compromise. we did not win, clearly, this election, and the president is back in office, you have to make some kind of deal and so the president's side, he needs to deal, too. and sometimes it doesn't get attention from the press but you heard nancy pelosi and harry reid saying they expect a deal along with charlie rangel before the december 31 deadline and the unions are on the air saying, don't cut our programs badly and the republican side, both sides are under pressure for a deal, right now and they will make it. >> chris: well, that is an optimistic view.
there is no second sit down scheduled for the president and congressional leaders he did speak to john boehner and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you kn
are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that
public pressure on republicans to support his plan. how speaker john boehner is pushing back. today his office released a statement saying the target of the president's rally should be the congressional democrats who want to raise tax rates on small businesses rather than cut spending. the white house in the meantime defends the public campaign and told chuck todd within the last hour it's doing all it can to strike a deal as soon as possible. >> isn't everybody just killing time until the deadline comes? >> no. it doesn't seem like killing time to me, chuck. >> it's the final week and the jet fumes and people get out of school and people will hammer it out? >> he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fuels at a national airport. he's active ly put forward a plan. >> another issue, how to get to the 218 votes needed to get a deal through the house if both parties are claiming a mandate. here's the challenge aaccording to our first read team. take a look. 205 house republican incumbents ran for re-election. 93% of them won. what's more, 117 of them won by getting at least 6
are leaving it to speaker john boehner and the house. the republican negotiating position and the president representing the democrats in the house and the senate. to make the -- to present the -- their conclusions to the rest of us to evaluate and vote on. but it has to be voted on in the house of representatives. the republican house members need to support it for it to pass. in the senate, it is not just enough for 51 democratic senators to be supportive. the rules permit the minority to have some rights -- until the rules are changed. as a result, we do have a voice. it has to be something that is acceptable to the senate republicans, as well as house republicans. >> have you seen any indication that senator harry reid wants to cut -- any spending? >> no. >> none? >> you never get him to talk about reducing spenning by a dime. it's always about adding revenue. they are not even satisfied to have more money. they have to specify where it comes from. rich people have to pay it as a result of an increase in tax rate, otherwise, we don't want it. now, that's -- that's kind of theology, rath
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